Kraftwerkian Trance: E.T. Contact with Les Murzsa in Vancouver UFO Skywatch Field Notes

By Jon Kelly

Vancouver, BC – Exclusive new video published to social media August 9, 2019, shows skywatch highlights from Canadian UFO videographer Les Murzsa’s recent UFO documentary road trip to Vancouver, British Columbia. The self-documenting Extraterrestrial Contact experiencer who played a substantial role in forecasting Contact incidents involving additional videographers and witnesses returned to the UFO corridor near Vancouver City Hall earlier this month. Regarding his latest images from this past weekend in Mount Pleasant, Les Murzsa considers the recordings evidence for a “close encounter with an E.T.”.

The British Columbia Contactee and guerilla film maker is currently in ongoing production for a new independent documentary under the working title “Hello, UFO”. When asked to explain what his most recent skywatch video captured Les Murzsa cited historical context within which the weekend sightings occurred, recounting events as “Consistent with my past experiences filming in the neighborhood.”

In an August 6 email discussing images recorded four days earlier Les Murzsa wrote to this reporter stating:

“I am certain that they are not balloons . . . At the beginning of the sighting there are two distinct objects. Let’s call them red and black. Not only do smaller white spheres appear but the black object comes and goes throughout the rest of the sighting. At times it appears to be part of the red object and no longer an object of its own . . . I caught sight of it when it was no more than 20 feet above the sidewalk at the North East corner of the park meaning we were within approximately 100 feet from the UFO.”

A deeply intuitive Les Murzsa contextualized this sighting experience with the following descriptive language stating, “If my theory is correct that these objects are dimensional entities then we and the public at the park had an extremely close encounter with an E.T. at ground level.

”It is my belief that these objects can pass into the earth and so I believe this UFO came out of the ground at the edge of the park because he knew that we were there filming and was presenting himself for us to capture the sighting on film.”

Invisible Galaxies Imaged by ALMA Observatory

Like the Atacama Large Millimeter Array (ALMA) Observatory that captures images of supposed invisible galaxies the 3CCD camera (JVC GZ-HD7US) used in Les Murzsa skywatch events normally operates at or beyond the range of its optical resolution. The multi-sensor camera achieves this by using digital magnification.

Under such conditions rendering distant subjects may introduce visual artifacts distinct from actual appearance (determined upon closer examination). In terms of identifying subjects zooming in on pixels offers a closer look while adding significant noise to the signal.

Upon review of the ALMA images, readers may agree there are not many galaxies that actually appear to have stair step-aliasing geometries. Those characteristics are evident artifacts of digital magnification from an observational system operating at or beyond the threshold of its optical range.

In summary, the ALMA invisible galaxies certainly don’t look like clusters with hundreds of billions of discrete stars and other celestial objects. Yet they continue to offer currency as media in the scientific press. In this climate the Les Murzsa video archive offers an opportunity for the public to consider scientific potential of multi-sensor camcorder registrations of limited resolution documenting and informing further documentation by others of potential Contact with other intelligent civilizations.

In attempting to address some of the questions raised by Les Murzsa’s substantial catalog of video images this reporter has introduced a higher-optical magnification imaging system (Panasonic AG-DVC30) into the skywatch events. The E.T. experiencer’s field leadership directing a camera team capturing images in Southwestern British Columbia resulted in stunning daylight and starlight images that amplify conclusions regarding the mysterious origins of these subjects.

Outtakes from those additional sightings included in the August skywatch video were recorded both at the same Mount Pleasant location in 2014 and within city blocks in 2011.

Due further consideration are the various ways in which cities appear as magnets for garbage and pollution with seemingly unlimited plastic bags and Mylar balloons drifting overhead. It may be hyperbolic to suggest the August skywatch images show anything more than balloons and a harbor seaplane at extreme range.

However, disproportional jitter along the image’s vertical axis exhibited by the subject as a tree branch comes into view in August 3, 2019, footage is difficult to explain as normal level flight by an airplane (although this appearance may be an artifact of the JVC camera’s Optical Image Stabilizer (OIS)).

Instrumentation measuring phenomena introduces noise to any experiment and future research will need to be able to successfully distinguish this noise from clear signals in order to successfully advance.

"Hello, UFO" is Les Murzsa's new documentary currently in production

It is this reporter’s documented experience that redundant multi-sensor instruments have registered images at closer optical magnification on numerous occasions when Les Murzsa was directing the camera team. Those registrations furthered the E.T. hypothesis rather than debunking it awakening a sense of how the continuity of Les Murzsa’s ongoing independent UFO studies can contribute to a scientifically-informed educational understanding of Contact phenomena.

Les Murzsa’s August skywatch procedure includes use of JVC’s Focus Assist feature offering a powerful subject-detecting capability that in numerous cases leads the videographer along his path of discovery. This behavioral characteristic of the investigator intersects with an interesting philosophical thread regarding machines identifying subjects for the operator to study (versus an operator-led approach).

Capitulation to cybernetics appears like a migration beyond metaphorical boundary lines related to artistic and creative expression of a transpersonal state in which the camera operator merges with the operation, where responsibility for leading investigation is de facto transferred to artificial intelligence (AI).

This theme finds widespread expression in popular music’s embrace of Kraftwerkian trances among today’s DJs and electronic instrument operators who follow the beat wherever it may lead them. Under these altered states of consciousness it appears possible subjects may approach the observer as per the claims of Yakima Lights investigator David Akers.

In the Report on the Investigation of Nocturnal Light Phenomena at Toppenish, Washington AUGUST 1972 David Akers wrote how photographic captures were produced by phenomena that approached the electrical engineer.

“The investigative approach used involved setting-up portable observation points at selected locations in the study area for several days at a time. This technique allowed the observer to become acquainted with normal activity in a given location and prepare him to detect any abnormal activity which might occur. No concerted effort was made to “chase” the phenomenon around the reservation. Instead, it was allowed to come to the observer (emphasis added).”


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Pilot’s Irish UFO ET Crash Recovery Secret Messages Anticipated Four Years Earlier during BC Wilderness Night Vision Contact Event

By Jon Kelly

Vancouver, BC – Exclusive new video published to social media on November 12, 2018, reveals how granular audio analysis of a 2014 Canadian wilderness starlight skywatch anticipated findings from a UFO incident that took place off the coast of Ireland this past Friday. Roswell-like citations of a “pilot” and death of an “alien” in a “crash” were first discovered during the 2015 audit of a British Columbia skywatch soundtrack recorded at a private off-grid location in the province’s interior.  Irish air traffic control’s recording of a British Airways pilot’s November 9, 2018, UFO sighting report subjected to the same procedure described a “captured saucer” recovery and “aliens” in what appears to be yet another instance of future intelligence revealed in time’s mirror.

The alleged Roswell Incident purports how a flying saucer crashed on a New Mexico ranch in 1947 spawning a headline in the Roswell Daily record stating “RAAF Captures Flying Saucer On Ranch in Roswell Region”. That report was retracted but subsequent claims ad nauseam have described the bodies of dead alien pilots recovered at the scene as well as discoveries of alien technology that became the basis of fibre optics and more through books, television shows, conference speaker careers, video games and film.

As a result Roswell today exists as possibly the biggest meme in UFOlogy but for visitors who venture there in search of contact with extraterrestrials there is little available other than an annual festival, alien blow-up dolls and a local museum commemorating the urban legend. When this reporter ventured to New Mexico in 2010 he discovered the living UFO phenomena was active 40 minutes south in Artesia. Suggestion: go to Artesia if you want to see a UFO flying low over one of the local neighborhoods.

CBS News and other mainstream outlets reported today how a pilot flying a Boeing 787 from Heathrow to Montreal called in to report a bright light observed by her crew that changed direction while travelling at a high rate of speed. According to the Irish Examiner that report has been updated where the event is now defined as a shooting star by one journalist (but we believe it to be an Irish UFO).

According to the American Meteor Society these celestial objects enter the Earth’s atmosphere at speeds of 25,000 miles per hour or up to six times greater. Typical unaided as a well as instrumental observations show the period of visibility is usually very brief and that descending fireballs maintain unidirectional travel throughout the observable portion of their flight.

Suggestions of changing direction from a trained observer classify today’s Irish UFO report as a seemingly highly unusual event. In a Commonwealth where government scientists issue statements to establishment media concerning the visibility of Jupiter on nights where witness video shows complete overcast conditions with spectacular subjects flying under the cloud layer there exists an evident concerted disinformation agenda that attempts to throw the credibility of sincere experiencers under the bus of official denial.

During the night of April 14, 2014, this reporter participated in a night vision skywatch with Canadian experiencer and videographer Les Murzsa at the British Columbia UFO Canyon hotspot. During the flight of a luminous object that displayed irregular flares while being recorded in 0.0001 Lux night vision the camera system’s microphone captured moments of dialogue between camera operator and UFO spotter.

That spontaneous meandering play-by-play was subjected to granular audio analysis the following year with results presented below where secret sleep talking-like messages encrypted backwards in those statements are indicated in bold surrounded by brackets. Granular audio methods and their implications are discussed later in this article.

Jon Kelly (JK): Okay, here’s one. Whoa, it’s flashing. I got a nice flash. Good news. Whoa. Now he’s just going out. No, he’s coming back up. He’s coming in coordination with the laser. Got a live one.  I have to get him on the color shot. I haven’t got him in color yet. Is that him? Yeah, he’s just coming up now.

Les Murzsa (LM): Mmhmm.

JK: Okay. Shoot. He’s come down. He’s coming up. Okay. We’re still with you bro. So faint now.

LM: Mmhmm.

JK: Yeah, like he’s gone right off the scope. Oh, there he is. He’s flashing again. Very tricky dude.

LM [Pilot.]: Mmhmm. You still got him.

JK [Alien die in the crash.]: Yeah. I don’t know if I got him in color but I’ve got a good track on the night vision. Now look. Yeah, he’s stayed bright for a long time. It’s a really unusual light pattern. And also I think somewhat responsive to the laser. Okay. I think I should. Whoops. He’s gone right down. I missed him.

LM: You got him.

JK: There.

LM: You got him still? Yeah.

JK: Okay.

LM: He’s coming back up.

JK: Okay. I’m moving over. Interesting and unusual.

Compare now the November 9, 2018, air traffic control communications with a British Airways pilot flying over Kerry, Ireland and the Irish UFO-related discoveries within. Secret messages are marked in bold within brackets as above.

Shannon Air Traffic Control (ATC): Okay, sorry. There’s nothing showing on either primary or secondary.

British Airways Pilot (Speedbird94) [I learned that we captured saucer. Aliens.]: Okay. It was leaving so fast. Actually can no longer see it. But yes.

ATC: Alongside you?

Speedbird94 [Those aliens recover. /2 It knows where to go.]: Yes. This UF[O] come up on our left-hand side and then rapidly veered to the north. We saw a bright light and then it just disappeared at a very high speed. We were just wondering. We didn’t think it was a likely collision course we’re just wondering what that could have been.

Takeaways from the above findings in this Irish UFO study include suggestions of a covert government (possibly joint U.S. /U.K.) UFO crash retrieval educational Disclosure program targeting former military pilots who now work in commercial aviation.

A second more esoteric hypothesis envisions ETs educating human Contactees in their sleep via telepathy where the experiencers dream about attending classes where they receive instruction on exopolitical social justice issues including the existence of captured extraterrestrials existing as hostages, torture victims or worse (comparable to the suffering of human victims of CIA illegal rendition, black site torture and wet rooms).

The pilot’s messages raise the issue of cognition, involuntarily emphasizing how the bright light appeared to be under intelligent control. This perception of intelligent behavior further differentiates the observed UFO from natural phenomena such as meteors.

And how is it that non-military personnel are messaging in the same Roswellian vein while taping night vision UFOs? The fact that members of the public are able to do so further advances the esoteric suggestion that via telepathic contact with psychic ETs (like those described in a three-part study of Edward Snowden’s secret messages) there appear to be no limits to class sizes when it comes to omnidimensional education.


Research that exposed human speech as a “multidimensional stimulus” with “numerous ways you can extract a message from it” was reported in the scientific journal Nature in 1999. In that report human observers were described as competent in resolving words while listening to highly-distorted speech recording samples. The procedure followed by scientists at Cal State involved digitally sampling recordings of human speech where samples were then reduced to grains of @50ms in duration.

Those grains were then locally time-reversed and globally resequenced in an attempt to emulate conditions found in voice-over-digital-network transmission (now commonly referred to as VoIP telephony). This methodology parallels techniques commonly used in biosciences where the nucleotides (grains) of a DNA molecule (sample) are resequenced in attempts to express novel characteristics of existing organisms (or to synthesize entirely new organisms from existing genetic materials).

For every set of discrete items the number of possible permutations of its order or sequence can be determined by using what is known as the factorial function (n!) where for example 3! = 3 x 2 x 1 = 6. In terms of granular speech synthesis the number of 50ms grains can be substantial, leading to what mathematicians call large numbers. For example, calculating the number of possible permutations of a set of 21 50ms grains by factorial function can be said to result in approximately 51 sextillion different sequences (5.1090942e+19).

However, for every set of discrete items (no matter how many), it can also be said that one possible permutation will always reflect the mirror or reverse order of the original sequence. In such a way (1, 2, 3) is newly rendered as (3, 2, 1). This understanding offers a shortcut of which common knowledge within the scientific and engineering communities is indicated by the inclusion of reverse macro functions in widely-used digital audio workstation (DAW) software applications and hardware. Investigators following the sampling, granular time-reversing and resequencing procedure modeled by scientists studying human speech intelligibility at Cal State can bypass untold iterations and simply monitor audio playback in reverse or mirror order with one click of a cursor.

From this reporter’s perspective the most important reason for bypassing myriad alternative sequence iterations is founded upon empirical evidence of practical intelligence discovered encrypted backwards in human speech. In the public domain this intelligence has offered preemptive understanding of facts concerning the Iraq War, the identity of one serial killer, the identity of a Russian spy and the resurrection of a CIA assassination program all named in broadcast media and online publications sometimes years before they were substantiated by mainstream news reports. Some of these reports are detailed in links provided below.

However, within modern society there remain numerous deeply ingrained superstitious implications of such encrypted multidimensional speech phenomena. These perceptions can be said founded upon dogmatic unscientific belief in fictitious untestable unproven entities and their supposed influences upon human behavior. Proponents of such scandalous misconceptions would stir the public to reject any suggestion of a time wheel’s (Sanskrit “Kalachakra”) bi-directional rotation, for instance. It is this type of Luddite perspective that would discourage the use of an automobile transmission’s reverse gear, compelling motorists to circumnavigate the globe instead of simply backing into a parking spot.

Therefore, only those capable of rejecting medieval injunctions against widdershins procession can embrace the type of volatile materials revealed through such a path of auditory inquiry. To quote one prominent Seattle psychologist this extremely psychoactive procedure and its findings are “not for beginners”.

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UFOs Resemble Animals in ‘UFO Zoomorphology: The Avian Motif’

By Jon Kelly

Vancouver, BC – A new June 6, 2018, short video feature from NewsInsideOut reporter Jon Kelly titled “UFO Zoomorphology: The Avian Motif” explores how some unidentified flying objects resemble animal forms when imaged in 0 Lux infrared with a tripod-mounted 3CCD broadcast-series camera.  In the video, images from Mt. Adams, Washington, recorded during the summer of 2010 reveal luminous emissions in the woods followed by a UFO that travels below the forest canopy. Digital video editing reveals the head of a bald eagle in profile recorded in one of the frames.

According to the witness, appearances of forest lights could be interpreted as precursors to the major UFO illumination event that followed. While studying the images a notion concerning plasma boiling in the atmosphere arises suggesting a scenario related to the churning on the surface of an ocean prior to the emergence of an entity from beneath the waves.

The sequence of images shown in the video represent events that occurred within a two-minute window of time while the camera was stationary and mounted on a tripod. The videographer relates how “During the recording period I was walking along the forested roadway in front of the camera directly beneath where the UFO flared. It produced a blue aura that illuminated the canopy like special effects lighting used in science fiction film-making.

“During the flare I was able to observe blue lighting reflecting from nearby tree branches through my peripheral vision. It was not until I returned to the camera to review what was captured that the source of illumination became visible to me. “

Discontinuities of light emissions seen in the video suggest how the UFO was flying behind some of the trees and that the source of illumination was within the woods that separated the lens from the subject.

If the light had been projected from behind the camera while sweeping a trail upon the woods it seems the continuity of that trail would have been greater. This conclusion is based upon an idea of how from the camera’s perspective there would have been little to no obstruction of the illuminator’s beam between its reflection off of the trees and the lens.

The veteran international field researcher explains “I applied contrast enhancement and digital magnification while editing. It was under these conditions that I was able to resolve the head of a bald eagle in profile on one of the UFO video frames. This avian form occurs in my photography as well, where for example Garuda appears as the eagle mount of Vishnu in the classical Sanskrit iconography of South Asia.”

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Transcending Time: ‘UFO Hotline’ on California MUFON Radio

By Jon Kelly

Vancouver, BC – Exclusive new video published to social media on June 15, 2017, finds California MUFON Radio host Lorien Fenton in conversation with Jon Kelly from to discuss his new documentary “UFO Hotline: Secret Messages of the Contactees”. The MUFON Marin and Sonoma counties Section Director characterized what she observed while watching the film in terms of interdimensional transactions of information, stating it opened previously-unrecognized “portals to consciousness”.

CLICK HERE to watch the full 72-minute Canadian independent documentary via rental or purchase.

In the new documentary launched last week, callers to a UFO Hotline have questions about their lives as witnesses, experiencers of UFO Contact pioneering along front lines of expanding consciousness and human performance. Jon Kelly from hopes that an “extremely psychoactive” non-invasive procedure will help as he attempts to learn more about cognitive processes that accompany Contact, including the emotions and dreams of the contactees. Viewers rapidly enter the psychic world of UFO experiencers by listening to digital reflections of callers’ unconscious sleep talking-like gestures facilitated by a knowledgeable and friendly expert with nearly 20 years of professional experience.

According to her bio, California MUFON Radio host Lorien Fenton’s non-profit production company presents the bi-annual UFO CON in San Jose, California. She also produces Super Soldier and Mind Control Summits and hosts three weekly radio shows.

In her on-air summary of the new documentary “UFO Hotline” this SF Bay area producer offered the following statement.  “When I was listening to his interpretation of how he does this last night I started thinking about time travel. And about how people are consciously living all different states of their parallel dimensions at the same time. And I started wondering if the way he was doing this wasn’t picking up on other-dimensional time-space as well and popping it into our subconscious here in this time-space.”

The following is a partial transcript of “UFO Hotline” producer Jon Kelly’s (JK) June 7, 2017, appearance with host Lorien Fenton (LF) on California MUFON Radio. The original show archive is available at the Inception Radio Network website. This transcript has been edited for clarity.

LF: Jon was texting me on Facebook last night and he goes “I’ve got this new movie out on” … is it YouTube or where exactly is it hosted that I saw it from last night.  It must be a special streaming place, right?

JK: That’s right. I have a streaming partnership that I’ve acquired to protect my work from the rabid censorship that’s presently active in social media. My serious work is available to the public through NewsInsideOut Plus.

LF: NewsInsideOut Plus. Remember that, folks and become a subscriber. How’s the subscription work there? Is it a paid or is it a rental? How does that work, Jon?

JK: NewsInsideOut Plus began as a subscription service, as a workshop space for me to develop and produce documentary feature productions. Subscribers can subscribe monthly or annually and receive the content that would come out every month (or in the creative period in which it emerged).  From that time I’ve moved on to longer format. Now we’re into 72-minute documentaries. I’m offering those as stand-alone titles [to non-subscribers] that people can rent or purchase access to the stream. [Current NewsInsideOut Plus subscribers receive these titles included with their subscription upon the titles’ releases].

LF: I didn’t know a thing about what you did so I went in with a completely blank-slated mind and I started listening and I was absolutely fascinated. The basis of what Jon has created here is he’s taken testimonies from people that call in. Where were they calling in to?

JK: My private independent hotline.

LF: So these were like people who wanted to talk to you about their UFO sightings, events that have taken place in their life, maybe their contact. Is that correct?

JK: These are volunteers from around the nation who responded to my call and submitted their spoken-word testimonies as recordings. They provided me with license to work with that audio using the methodology that we’ll discuss. With their full consent I accumulated those recordings. Lorien, you may not remember but you and I spoke a few years ago. You had surveyed some of my work in the past (although you may not recall now). I’ve been on the scene since the late 1990s. I’m a former CBS Radio feature producer with experience in #1-rated CBS Television news. I’m very familiar with being in situations where I had access to large populations and regional populations and was able to accumulate a substantial archival library of the voices of speakers, many of whom participated in my private sessions where I work as an alternative therapist.

LF: That is so cool. Jon was kind enough to let me have access to his latest, “UFO Hotline: Secret Messages of the Contactees”. I’m working away, doing my bookkeeping and I thought “I’ll start listening to this while I’m working. And I was just so fascinated. How much of this do you want to tell the audience about before we can get them to go over there and purchase this and listen to it? I think it’s just amazing.

JK: I think in terms of what’s on display that there are several layers of experience the film offers. This is Cinéma vérité [Combining “improvisation with the use of the camera to unveil truth or highlight subjects hidden behind crude reality.” – Source]. This is “reality” meaning that what the viewer observes is real-time analysis performed on my digital audio workstation with real-time commentary. In this film the viewer discovers the findings alongside the investigator for 72 minutes. This is a very rare opportunity and the significance of participating or attending this event for the audience, the greatest significance is that the investigator has a well-known public track record for the quality of their findings being vetted. I wrote about the revived CIA Phoenix program three years before the Intercept. I published the name of a Russian spy (who was part of a large deportation that took place at the end of the last decade). I published that name nine months before it appeared in the Wall Street Journal.

LF: When you did this, how did you discover these people or this event before it happened? Was it through this modality?

JK: I studied the spoken words, the available media, the existing media and I subjected it to an intelligence assessment (or a counterintelligence assessment we could say) using a digital audio workstation. Science understands the term “multidimensional speech”. It was cited by Dr. Kourosh Saberi of the University of California at Irvine when he commented on several articles that appeared in scholarly publications published by the Royal Society and by Nature. These discussions of multidimensional speech occur in scientific circles. Dr. Saberi was a co-author in research that investigated the human brain’s ability to decipher backwards-encoded speech. They micro-sampled normal human speech in lab experiments and played back percentages [of the samples] flipped forwards and backwards to the listener. They did this in order to determine the rate of success of decryption that would occur. They determined through their statistical analysis that the human brain (from this one sample, I don’t know how many participants). This was not 100k participants. This is a typical small study. But from their sample they determined that the human brain was decoding backwards speech [with implications suggesting the brain evolved this capability as an adaptation to relatively frequent occurrences of backwards speech detectable within the spoken communications of early humans]. This discussion was circulated in Nature and it was circulated in Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society. Scientists in very high level circles (we’re talking about the descendants of Isaac Newton) are very interested in considering concepts related to multidimensional speech. It’s widely known in audio production circles that forwards and backwards playback of audio recordings was possible going back to the days of reel-to-reel decks in Germany and Britain in the 1930s. Going back to that time, people in engineering labs had the capacity (using magnetic tapes) to decrypt audio in different directions through mechanical means. In the digital era we have even more capacity to examine artifacts of sound and light. This digital processing is a very powerful tool. I’m applying those techniques using existing industry tools. I use Adobe Audition. No big secret there. Nothing proprietary. The novelty is found in the application because we’re reversing playback of the audio. We’re mirroring or reflecting the sample, the statistical graph that the workstation generates, that we see on the monitor. When we flip the chart and monitor it across time by modulating that time parameter there are additional dimensions of encrypted speech that reveal themselves. And I believe that the audience, by participating riding shotgun (with me as the investigator) are able to make their own determinations with regards to that claim when they watch the film.

LF: Absolutely. You really did an amazing job. I’ve heard other pieces like this before but what I loved about what you did is that you would go over something. You’d go over it and you’d go over it and then you’d say “You know what, I can’t figure it out. I’m going to let it go.” But I’ve got to tell you, going along with you there were places when I actually heard something that you didn’t.  And I was thinking “Oh God, how do I tell him that I found something there that he’s not hearing?” How many people come back to you later after doing this with you through the movie, how did they tell you “Hey Jon, by the way I analyzed what you analyzed and I came up with this and this point? Can they do that? Can they interact with you after your stuff?

JK: Absolutely. When people visit where the article is published (and I hope that you’ll share that article with your audience).

LF: I am, yeah.

JK: They’ll see that comments are provided for our readers on And we have a very active commentary, a participatory audience that comments on our articles. That provides a forum whereby the audience can communicate with me to share their insights and findings. I think what we’re really talking about here is testimony to the fact that as humans (this is “reality” cinema) we go through life with two hands, two feet, two eyes, two ears. Not ten hands, ten feet, etc. When we experience reality it’s as it unfolds, as it presents itself. That is real human experience. The film doesn’t present a contrived scenario where I edit and re-edit and re-edit and re-edit. What I’m portraying though is the technique that was rated “extremely psychoactive” by a PhD psychologist who attended my session. That is the technique that discovered the name of the Russian spy. That is the skill set being demonstrated that ID’d the CIA Phoenix program three years before it ever was published in the Intercept. The Intercept is supposed to be the whistleblower. The Intercept sat on a story for three years and I released it. You’re watching that skill set. That is a very rare but highly real-world tested and time-tested skill set. That’s the skill set that ID’d the missile strikes on Baghdad that began the Iraq War the Monday after George W. Bush gave his first inaugural address. [NB: In follow-up response to the first part of Lorien’s remarks, Jon Kelly doesn’t warrant that people will be able to audibly resolve his findings, that he can make other people hear things, or that he can hear what other people hear. He states repeatedly during the interview that his analytic bona fides are based almost entirely upon unimpeachable facts (backed by independent third-party documentation) of a track record that demonstrates “beating headlines” (consistently reporting news later substantiated by mainstream sources, sheriff’s departments and the newsmakers themselves) over an almost-20 year period].

LF: I find this absolutely fascinating. What you’re really doing is you’re transcending time in a psychological breakthrough. You’re really reading the subconscious. And transcending what they’ve got planned for their future. It’s very interesting to me. I can’t quite wrap my head around it, Jon, but you did a great job explaining it. And I hope that I’m understanding it correctly. It’s really cool. That’s all I’ve got to say. It’s really cool.

JK: I think it’s participatory enough; the documentary is participatory enough that it encourages people to develop their own insights and to begin discussions. If the film serves as a starting point for discussions that are related to self-discovery and inner discovery and self-understanding and self-integration then I think the film will have served a purpose. There are many unanswered questions that the film raises. But I think those questions are very important because I do not see those questions being addressed in current discourse. The questions that are raised about the dream states of the participants, for example. The film doesn’t present a summary where we cross-reference the three transcripts that I produce. But if you were following along you’ll notice that all three participants were talking about the same issues in their unconscious speech.

LF: That’s right. It’s very intriguing I’ve got to say.

JK: Nobody else [of comparable stature in these specific skill sets] is doing this but I’ll conclude by saying this: Dr. J. Allen Hynek insisted that science is expressed through innovation. And he specifically called for improved methodology in comprehensive interrogation of UFO witnesses. It’s written in his book The UFO Experience – A Scientific Inquiry. My work responds to Dr. Hynek because I’m applying real-world tested skills. My work is already established outside of UFOlogy and I’m bringing those proven real-world skills to the UFO question. I think this is important for anyone who is investigating the UFO question. But beyond that, anyone who works with speech, anyone who works in counseling and therapy will benefit from sitting shotgun with me for those 72 minutes. I hope that readers will take me up on that offer.

LF: Absolutely. It was fascinating to me. And it opened up even more portals to my consciousness than I had even thought that I was aware of at the moment.

“UFO Hotline: Secret Messages of the Contactees” is now streaming to NewsInsideOut Plus subscribers and also available in the NewsInsideOut Plus Video Library for rental or purchase.

CLICK HERE to watch the full 72-minute Canadian independent documentary via rental or purchase.

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